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thornyrose42 And that feeling is not happy.
So I've just finished watching the fifth season of Lost and while in general I absolutely loved it the final episode made me realise exactly how the Janto fans must have felt about CoE. I now understand why they went and metaphorically shouted at James Moran on his blog, why they threatened to find RTD at ComicCon and do violent things to him with a baseball bat.
Of course since I have manners and morals and stuff I won't do any of those things. (Also I'm so late to the party that everyone has pretty much recovered from the hangovers and is waiting eagerly for their invitation to the next bash. If I did run in and start jumping on the metaphorical furniture everyone would look at me like I was crazy. So I won't... because of morals and stuff, yeah...)
Anyway you can probably guess what has got me so mad. I've always liked Sawyer. I like his sense of humour, his practical side, the fact that he messes up and his lack of rose tinted specs. He reads with taped up specs and isn't as cold as he would like people to thing he is. Also he is a hell of a lot more self aware then Jack is so he learns from his mistakes and grows because of it.
I also like Juliet. She is awesome, unless the writers are writing to serve the plot and throwing all her character notes out of the window, calm, controlled, practical and mature. I love her to bits.
So I was very happy when the writers seemed to be moving away the Geometric Shape of Doom and Boredom and investing in a Juliet/Sawyer relationship. For most of the season, in fact right up until the last episode, I was very happy with the way they handled it. They spent several episodes establishing the fact that they worked well together and then left a suitable time period so that when we met them again you could believe that they had fallen in love. Something that the show is generally quite bad at, it has a tendency to throw couples together and then go "Okay they are in love now" after a couple of episodes and not many more days. Also they just seemed to work as a couple. I really felt that they had built a life together and so it did feel tragic that their world was being slowly cracked apart by the arrival of the O6.
At the end of the day I believed that they did have each other's backs and thus when the final episode came I was angry as hell when the writers suddenly decided to throw all of that out of the window. Obviously they needed Jack to blow up the bomb and obviously an IC Juliet wouldn't let him. So we get the previously very mature Juliet suddenly deciding that her husband/boyfriend of three years who had never previously given her any reason to doubt him is going to run off with Kate based on One Fucking Look and that since this is obviously going to happen it would be better for them never to have met at all.
I mean it makes no sense. At least Kate's motivation for agreeing to Jack's frankly insane idea was sort of understandable and IC if only barely but Juliet's... it makes no fucking sense.
Through out the whole episode I was just waiting for someone to someone to hit Jack over the head a couple of times and then tie him up for a really long time because the whole plan was just completely insane. And staying IC only Jack and Sayid had any reason to want to carry it out. The rest of them were in worse places at the start of the series then they were at the end, with the possible exception of Jin, although even with him I would argue that he should know that it was being on the island that brought them back together as a couple. So yeah, I hate Jack.
On the other hand I though that this was in general a really good season for Kate who deserves so much better than Jack. A tiny part of me thinks that the real reason why she agreed to the bomb plan was that she thought that prison was better than having Jack be obsessed with her.
So basically my wish list for the next season goes something like this:
1) Juliet isn't dead.
2) She and Sawyer get back together after she confesses that, I don't know electromagnetism made her irrational for a while.
3) Kate tells Jack to piss off and he falls down a cliff or gets eaten by the smoke monster.
4) They all leave the island.
5) Juliet finds her sister. Kate invites Claire's grandmother to stay in America and raises Arron next door to Clementine and her mum. Juliet and Sawyer visit regularly and they all live happily ever after. Also Miles pops round sometimes and he and Kate have a bit of a thing but nothing really serious.
How much of this do I think is going to happen? Precious little. Mostly because there wouldn't be much of a season. But at the very least I want Jack to get beaten up a lot and maybe shot a couple of times and please fandom gods let Juliet be alive! Please!
So I've just finished watching the fifth season of Lost and while in general I absolutely loved it the final episode made me realise exactly how the Janto fans must have felt about CoE. I now understand why they went and metaphorically shouted at James Moran on his blog, why they threatened to find RTD at ComicCon and do violent things to him with a baseball bat.
Of course since I have manners and morals and stuff I won't do any of those things. (Also I'm so late to the party that everyone has pretty much recovered from the hangovers and is waiting eagerly for their invitation to the next bash. If I did run in and start jumping on the metaphorical furniture everyone would look at me like I was crazy. So I won't... because of morals and stuff, yeah...)
Anyway you can probably guess what has got me so mad. I've always liked Sawyer. I like his sense of humour, his practical side, the fact that he messes up and his lack of rose tinted specs. He reads with taped up specs and isn't as cold as he would like people to thing he is. Also he is a hell of a lot more self aware then Jack is so he learns from his mistakes and grows because of it.
I also like Juliet. She is awesome, unless the writers are writing to serve the plot and throwing all her character notes out of the window, calm, controlled, practical and mature. I love her to bits.
So I was very happy when the writers seemed to be moving away the Geometric Shape of Doom and Boredom and investing in a Juliet/Sawyer relationship. For most of the season, in fact right up until the last episode, I was very happy with the way they handled it. They spent several episodes establishing the fact that they worked well together and then left a suitable time period so that when we met them again you could believe that they had fallen in love. Something that the show is generally quite bad at, it has a tendency to throw couples together and then go "Okay they are in love now" after a couple of episodes and not many more days. Also they just seemed to work as a couple. I really felt that they had built a life together and so it did feel tragic that their world was being slowly cracked apart by the arrival of the O6.
At the end of the day I believed that they did have each other's backs and thus when the final episode came I was angry as hell when the writers suddenly decided to throw all of that out of the window. Obviously they needed Jack to blow up the bomb and obviously an IC Juliet wouldn't let him. So we get the previously very mature Juliet suddenly deciding that her husband/boyfriend of three years who had never previously given her any reason to doubt him is going to run off with Kate based on One Fucking Look and that since this is obviously going to happen it would be better for them never to have met at all.
I mean it makes no sense. At least Kate's motivation for agreeing to Jack's frankly insane idea was sort of understandable and IC if only barely but Juliet's... it makes no fucking sense.
Through out the whole episode I was just waiting for someone to someone to hit Jack over the head a couple of times and then tie him up for a really long time because the whole plan was just completely insane. And staying IC only Jack and Sayid had any reason to want to carry it out. The rest of them were in worse places at the start of the series then they were at the end, with the possible exception of Jin, although even with him I would argue that he should know that it was being on the island that brought them back together as a couple. So yeah, I hate Jack.
On the other hand I though that this was in general a really good season for Kate who deserves so much better than Jack. A tiny part of me thinks that the real reason why she agreed to the bomb plan was that she thought that prison was better than having Jack be obsessed with her.
So basically my wish list for the next season goes something like this:
1) Juliet isn't dead.
2) She and Sawyer get back together after she confesses that, I don't know electromagnetism made her irrational for a while.
3) Kate tells Jack to piss off and he falls down a cliff or gets eaten by the smoke monster.
4) They all leave the island.
5) Juliet finds her sister. Kate invites Claire's grandmother to stay in America and raises Arron next door to Clementine and her mum. Juliet and Sawyer visit regularly and they all live happily ever after. Also Miles pops round sometimes and he and Kate have a bit of a thing but nothing really serious.
How much of this do I think is going to happen? Precious little. Mostly because there wouldn't be much of a season. But at the very least I want Jack to get beaten up a lot and maybe shot a couple of times and please fandom gods let Juliet be alive! Please!
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Date: 2009-09-16 12:28 am (UTC)That was one of the few things I liked about the seventies plot. Sawyer stayed IC all the way through and proved that he had become a leader and a hero. He has grown up so much over the course of the series and when this season put him on the spot he rose to the challenge. Which contrasted nicely with Jack's decent into crazy possessive drunkenness. I don't hate Jack. Its... its complicated. I think that the writers did a damn good job in creating him and writing him. I like the fact that he was set up to be the hero of the show and that as the series goes on his weaknesses and flaws are exposed and brought to the surface. I still think he is one of the least interesting characters on the show and when he isn't being dull I find him infuriating but still believable as a human being which I am grateful for.
I think I talked a little about the present story line (i.e. the only bits I could bear to watch) on your recent journal post so yeah... I did find it interesting. Lost is the Ben and Locke show really. I have faith that the writers will deliver up a really interesting knotty story next season where, hopefully, everyone will start acting IC again. But ranting is more fun than talking about that!
Sayid... I think I just assumed that the show would want to keep the actor in. :)
Actually don't generally like spoilers especially in a show like Lost but the next thing I did after writing my rant was check whether Juliet was coming back. I wasn't entirely reassured. Going to say stuff that has casting spoilers in it ...........
It seemed that she was more of a guest star the next season which, Lost being Lost, could be flashbacks and ghosts and any number of things apart from her being alive. Grrr!