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thornyrose42 And that feeling is not happy.
So I've just finished watching the fifth season of Lost and while in general I absolutely loved it the final episode made me realise exactly how the Janto fans must have felt about CoE. I now understand why they went and metaphorically shouted at James Moran on his blog, why they threatened to find RTD at ComicCon and do violent things to him with a baseball bat.
Of course since I have manners and morals and stuff I won't do any of those things. (Also I'm so late to the party that everyone has pretty much recovered from the hangovers and is waiting eagerly for their invitation to the next bash. If I did run in and start jumping on the metaphorical furniture everyone would look at me like I was crazy. So I won't... because of morals and stuff, yeah...)
Anyway you can probably guess what has got me so mad. I've always liked Sawyer. I like his sense of humour, his practical side, the fact that he messes up and his lack of rose tinted specs. He reads with taped up specs and isn't as cold as he would like people to thing he is. Also he is a hell of a lot more self aware then Jack is so he learns from his mistakes and grows because of it.
I also like Juliet. She is awesome, unless the writers are writing to serve the plot and throwing all her character notes out of the window, calm, controlled, practical and mature. I love her to bits.
So I was very happy when the writers seemed to be moving away the Geometric Shape of Doom and Boredom and investing in a Juliet/Sawyer relationship. For most of the season, in fact right up until the last episode, I was very happy with the way they handled it. They spent several episodes establishing the fact that they worked well together and then left a suitable time period so that when we met them again you could believe that they had fallen in love. Something that the show is generally quite bad at, it has a tendency to throw couples together and then go "Okay they are in love now" after a couple of episodes and not many more days. Also they just seemed to work as a couple. I really felt that they had built a life together and so it did feel tragic that their world was being slowly cracked apart by the arrival of the O6.
At the end of the day I believed that they did have each other's backs and thus when the final episode came I was angry as hell when the writers suddenly decided to throw all of that out of the window. Obviously they needed Jack to blow up the bomb and obviously an IC Juliet wouldn't let him. So we get the previously very mature Juliet suddenly deciding that her husband/boyfriend of three years who had never previously given her any reason to doubt him is going to run off with Kate based on One Fucking Look and that since this is obviously going to happen it would be better for them never to have met at all.
I mean it makes no sense. At least Kate's motivation for agreeing to Jack's frankly insane idea was sort of understandable and IC if only barely but Juliet's... it makes no fucking sense.
Through out the whole episode I was just waiting for someone to someone to hit Jack over the head a couple of times and then tie him up for a really long time because the whole plan was just completely insane. And staying IC only Jack and Sayid had any reason to want to carry it out. The rest of them were in worse places at the start of the series then they were at the end, with the possible exception of Jin, although even with him I would argue that he should know that it was being on the island that brought them back together as a couple. So yeah, I hate Jack.
On the other hand I though that this was in general a really good season for Kate who deserves so much better than Jack. A tiny part of me thinks that the real reason why she agreed to the bomb plan was that she thought that prison was better than having Jack be obsessed with her.
So basically my wish list for the next season goes something like this:
1) Juliet isn't dead.
2) She and Sawyer get back together after she confesses that, I don't know electromagnetism made her irrational for a while.
3) Kate tells Jack to piss off and he falls down a cliff or gets eaten by the smoke monster.
4) They all leave the island.
5) Juliet finds her sister. Kate invites Claire's grandmother to stay in America and raises Arron next door to Clementine and her mum. Juliet and Sawyer visit regularly and they all live happily ever after. Also Miles pops round sometimes and he and Kate have a bit of a thing but nothing really serious.
How much of this do I think is going to happen? Precious little. Mostly because there wouldn't be much of a season. But at the very least I want Jack to get beaten up a lot and maybe shot a couple of times and please fandom gods let Juliet be alive! Please!
So I've just finished watching the fifth season of Lost and while in general I absolutely loved it the final episode made me realise exactly how the Janto fans must have felt about CoE. I now understand why they went and metaphorically shouted at James Moran on his blog, why they threatened to find RTD at ComicCon and do violent things to him with a baseball bat.
Of course since I have manners and morals and stuff I won't do any of those things. (Also I'm so late to the party that everyone has pretty much recovered from the hangovers and is waiting eagerly for their invitation to the next bash. If I did run in and start jumping on the metaphorical furniture everyone would look at me like I was crazy. So I won't... because of morals and stuff, yeah...)
Anyway you can probably guess what has got me so mad. I've always liked Sawyer. I like his sense of humour, his practical side, the fact that he messes up and his lack of rose tinted specs. He reads with taped up specs and isn't as cold as he would like people to thing he is. Also he is a hell of a lot more self aware then Jack is so he learns from his mistakes and grows because of it.
I also like Juliet. She is awesome, unless the writers are writing to serve the plot and throwing all her character notes out of the window, calm, controlled, practical and mature. I love her to bits.
So I was very happy when the writers seemed to be moving away the Geometric Shape of Doom and Boredom and investing in a Juliet/Sawyer relationship. For most of the season, in fact right up until the last episode, I was very happy with the way they handled it. They spent several episodes establishing the fact that they worked well together and then left a suitable time period so that when we met them again you could believe that they had fallen in love. Something that the show is generally quite bad at, it has a tendency to throw couples together and then go "Okay they are in love now" after a couple of episodes and not many more days. Also they just seemed to work as a couple. I really felt that they had built a life together and so it did feel tragic that their world was being slowly cracked apart by the arrival of the O6.
At the end of the day I believed that they did have each other's backs and thus when the final episode came I was angry as hell when the writers suddenly decided to throw all of that out of the window. Obviously they needed Jack to blow up the bomb and obviously an IC Juliet wouldn't let him. So we get the previously very mature Juliet suddenly deciding that her husband/boyfriend of three years who had never previously given her any reason to doubt him is going to run off with Kate based on One Fucking Look and that since this is obviously going to happen it would be better for them never to have met at all.
I mean it makes no sense. At least Kate's motivation for agreeing to Jack's frankly insane idea was sort of understandable and IC if only barely but Juliet's... it makes no fucking sense.
Through out the whole episode I was just waiting for someone to someone to hit Jack over the head a couple of times and then tie him up for a really long time because the whole plan was just completely insane. And staying IC only Jack and Sayid had any reason to want to carry it out. The rest of them were in worse places at the start of the series then they were at the end, with the possible exception of Jin, although even with him I would argue that he should know that it was being on the island that brought them back together as a couple. So yeah, I hate Jack.
On the other hand I though that this was in general a really good season for Kate who deserves so much better than Jack. A tiny part of me thinks that the real reason why she agreed to the bomb plan was that she thought that prison was better than having Jack be obsessed with her.
So basically my wish list for the next season goes something like this:
1) Juliet isn't dead.
2) She and Sawyer get back together after she confesses that, I don't know electromagnetism made her irrational for a while.
3) Kate tells Jack to piss off and he falls down a cliff or gets eaten by the smoke monster.
4) They all leave the island.
5) Juliet finds her sister. Kate invites Claire's grandmother to stay in America and raises Arron next door to Clementine and her mum. Juliet and Sawyer visit regularly and they all live happily ever after. Also Miles pops round sometimes and he and Kate have a bit of a thing but nothing really serious.
How much of this do I think is going to happen? Precious little. Mostly because there wouldn't be much of a season. But at the very least I want Jack to get beaten up a lot and maybe shot a couple of times and please fandom gods let Juliet be alive! Please!
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Date: 2009-09-15 06:57 pm (UTC)Ooh, it’s great to hear all your thinky thoughts. I can’t wait to discuss new episodes with you next year.
That finale was just like an ordinary LOST finale, but with twice the cliffhanger. S1: We open the hatch. S2: Our heroes have been kidnapped. S3: Not Penny’s Boat. S4: *gasp* Locke is dead? S5: Juliet blasts the bomb and the whole screen goes white. Is Sayid dead? Is Juliet? Who is the evil Not!Locke? CAN WE CHANGE TIME OR NOT? My brain literally couldn’t function for about an hour.
The ‘we must blow up of the bomb’ was probably my least favorite thing about this season and maybe in all of LOST. It just seems like such a ridiculous idea that I have a lot of trouble believing that any of our characters would actually go along with it. If it works, time gets reset and their lives are just as miserable as they were at the beginning of show. If it doesn’t work, they all die. WTF? Sawyer and Kate and Juliet and Jin and Hurley and Sayid and, yes, even Jack are not that stupid.
The only person that I can accept this from is Sayid because his life would actually be much better if the plane had never crashed. Sawyer would still be a con man who would never meet Kate or Juliet or Jack (his true love) nor would he ever get the closure of having killed the real ‘Sawyer’. Kate would be in jail. Juliet would be on The Island, dealing with Ben’s leering looks. Jin would have a wife who hates him and no baby. Hurley would still be haunted by The Numbers. And, Jack would bury his father, go back to being a surgeon and never meet Kate. I know Jack makes his fair share of bad decisions, but this is beyond even Jack-stupidity. Going back in time would NOT mean that he and Kate would live happily ever after. I think Jack’s decision is just as out of character as Juliet’s. Say what you will about Jack - he is logical and I think it was very out of character for him to be the head of this very illogical plan.
(The only way I could accept the Bomb-Plan is if they stress all the people that could be alive if the plane hadn’t crashed. I can’t remember if any of the characters really brought that up…? But the plan seems less idiotic if they justified it with Boon, Shannon, Charlie, Echo, Ana Lucia, Libby, Michael, Daniel, Charlotte etc.)
Kate & Miles, huh? Interesting. It’s kinda cool because Miles is like the new snarky Sawyer. They needed a new one because, in the last two seasons, Sawyer became the hero of the show.
Really? No thoughts on the Jacob-Locke-Ben-Not!Locke story line? Because that was the part of the finale which I found most interesting. Probably because I think Ben owns the entire show. Also because I smile every time it becomes clear that Locke isn’t ‘special’ at all. Aaand, are you not at all concerned over Sayid’s possible death? Most of the fandom just brushed over that, but I was upset.
((Are vehemently anti-spoiler? Because there are a few that may interest you.)
Oh, I just realized that LOST is probably one of the few shows where the fandom’s most hated character is not a woman. Kate takes her fair share of animosity, but it’s hard to find someone who doesn’t hate Jack completely. (In fact, I’m the only one I know.)
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